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Mattias Martens's avatar

RE: why straight men like dead wives: my perspective is that the dead wife does not appeal inherently but as a device, namely, to produce a middle-aged man who is single for a non-embarrassing reason, with a clean slate and the narrative tension of unsatisfied virility.

Or, to attempt an aphorism in your style: the existence of the wife tells us the man has a load to blow; the fact that she is dead tells us he needs somewhere to blow it.

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This was fun.

I liked what you wrote here: "part of the point of the film is that there is always more to lose, as long as you’re breathing you are eminently vulnerable...The implication being that without hope — or justice, its semblance — Wick will find no way to be alive."

I have a slightly different take on this but I can't quite get at it. Justice is not in the frame here. This film is about stylised violence. But leaving that aside, this film is about nihilism (I would say that, wouldn't I?). John sort of wants to commit suicide (this is the vulnerability), but the Babba Yagga committing suicide would be gay, so John instead exploits a pretext to get other people to shoot him, but he must make it hard for them because for Babba Yagga anything less would be gay. To motivate them, he gradually draws them into his suicidal nihilistic vortex e.g. by killing the boss' son, by torching the vault and, in the 2nd film, killing in the hotel. Nobody can have any meaning or joy, only violence and death. John's vortex is sustained by the visceral, heart pounding experience of *competence*. Man, nothing makes you feel alive like viscerally demonstrating your hard earned competence, preferably in a way that gets you literally covered in viscera, hence slowly stabbing the guy in the neck. That's ambrosia for Wick.

I enjoyed the capitalist reading, though I think the point of John Wick is for it not to be read (I kind of want to say that reading John Wick is gay. There, I said it. The movie must be aggressively anti gay at its core so that it can go full Tom Ford on the stylishness. That's my reading. Ugh, deconstruction is inescapable; curse Derrida). Anyway, love this: "It is the comfort of the ruling classes that generates the bad violence." YES. Reminds of Kaiser Wilhelm II just wanting a small war, mostly for entertainment. Or indeed all the nepotism fail-forward generals of middle kingdom China that Sun Tzu wrote for. Also reminds me of this amazing skeet I just spent 30 mins trying to find that went something like: "You know how when you get the infinite money cheat in The Sims you first buy all the things, then feel empty, so you start torturing your Sims? Well I think I figured out why billionaires all suck".

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